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Pope Benedict’s message for the 47th World Communications Day

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 24, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 24, 2013 2

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My emphasis in BOLD

“Social Networks: portals of truth and faith; new spaces for evangelization.”

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

As the 2013 World Communications Day draws near, I would like to offer you some reflections on an increasingly important reality regarding the way in which people today communicate among themselves. I wish to consider the development of digital social networks which are helping to create a new “agora”, an open public square in which people share ideas, information and opinions, and in which new relationships and forms of community can come into being.

These spaces, when engaged in a wise and balanced way, help to foster forms of dialogue and debate which, if conducted respectfully and with concern for privacy, responsibility and truthfulness, can reinforce the bonds of unity between individuals and effectively promote the harmony of the human family. The exchange of information can become true communication, links ripen into friendships, and connections facilitate communion. If the networks are called to realize this great potential, the people involved in them must make an effort to be authentic [This authenticity has many aspects. It must be an authenticity based on the teachings of the Church, no on one’s personal opinions. It must also be a lived truth, it is not enough to proclaim an idea. The “idea” or theology must become “flesh” in the lives of the believer who proclaims the message of Christ in this new medium.] since, in these spaces, it is not only ideas and information that are shared, but ultimately our very selves.

The development of social networks calls for commitment [A scary word to many!]: people are engaged in building relationships and making friends, in looking for answers to their questions and being entertained, but also in finding intellectual stimulation and sharing knowledge and know-how. The networks are increasingly becoming part of the very fabric of society, inasmuch as they bring people together on the basis of these fundamental needs. Social networks are thus nourished by aspirations rooted in the human heart. [This is a two way communication. New media is not like reading a book, watching a television program or listening to a cd. It is a “communion”. In a sense, we are going back to that public square, although virtual, but there is a, or should be a personal connection.]

The culture of social networks and the changes in the means and styles of communication pose demanding challenges to those who want to speak about truth and values. Often, as is also the case with other means of social communication, the significance and effectiveness of the various forms of expression appear to be determined more by their popularity than by their intrinsic importance and value. Popularity, for its part, is often linked to celebrity or to strategies of persuasion rather than to the logic of argumentation. At times the gentle voice of reason can be overwhelmed by the din of excessive information and it fails to attract attention which is given instead to those who express themselves in a more persuasive manner. The social media thus need the commitment of all who are conscious of the value of dialogue, reasoned debate and logical argumentation; [Don’t be fooled into thinking you need to be some superstar to be part of the dialogue. This is a “one soul at a time” operation. We shouldn’t look for fame, but to reach out to the PERSON. This was often said of Blessed John Paul. He saw the person before him as if they were the only person in the world] of people who strive to cultivate forms of discourse and expression which appeal to the noblest aspirations of those engaged in the communication process. Dialogue and debate can also flourish and grow when we converse with and take seriously people whose ideas are different from our own. “Given the reality of cultural diversity, people need not only to accept the existence of the culture of others, but also to aspire to be enriched by it and to offer to it whatever they possess that is good, true and beautiful” [We are not alone in having something to offer. Even those with whom we disagree have something to offer us! I think we sometimes fail in this area, having an attitude that we are out to convert the pagans, who have nothing good to offer us. God speaks to us through all people and in all situations.] (Address at the Meeting with the World of Culture, Bélem, Lisbon, 12 May 2010).

The challenge facing social networks is how to be truly inclusive: thus they will benefit from the full participation of believers who desire to share the message of Jesus and the values of human dignity which his teaching promotes. Believers are increasingly aware that, unless the Good News is made known also in the digital world, it may be absent in the experience of many people for whom this existential space is important. The digital environment is not a parallel or purely virtual world, but is part of the daily experience of many people, especially the young. Social networks are the result of human interaction, but for their part they also reshape the dynamics of communication which builds relationships: a considered understanding of this environment is therefore the prerequisite for a significant presence there.

The ability to employ the new languages is required, not just to keep up with the times, but precisely in order to enable the infinite richness of the Gospel to find forms of expression capable of reaching the minds and hearts of all. [Many of the saints converted pagan practice, to shed light on the truths of the Gospel message. St. Patrick used pagan rituals to convert the pagans of his time.] In the digital environment the written word is often accompanied by images and sounds. Effective communication, as in the parables of Jesus, must involve the imagination and the affectivity of those we wish to invite to an encounter with the mystery of God’s love. Besides, we know that Christian tradition has always been rich in signs and symbols: I think for example of the Cross, icons, images of the Virgin Mary, Christmas cribs, stained-glass windows and pictures in our churches. A significant part of mankind’s artistic heritage has been created by artists and musicians who sought to express the truths of the faith.

In social networks, believers show their authenticity by sharing the profound source of their hope and joy: faith in the merciful and loving God revealed in Christ Jesus. [It is sharing what we love and makes us love Christ that gives the message authenticity, not only sharing some doctrine. How is the doctrine real in my “real” life?] This sharing consists not only in the explicit expression of their faith, but also in their witness, in the way in which they communicate “choices, preferences and judgements that are fully consistent with the Gospel, even when it is not spoken of specifically” (Message for the 2011 World Communications Day). A particularly significant way of offering such witness will be through a willingness to give oneself to others by patiently and respectfully engaging their questions and their doubts as they advance in their search for the truth and the meaning of human existence. The growing dialogue in social networks about faith and belief confirms the importance and relevance of religion in public debate and in the life of society.

For those who have accepted the gift of faith with an open heart, the most radical response to mankind’s questions about love, truth and the meaning of life – questions certainly not absent from social networks – are found in the person of Jesus Christ. [The search for God is everywhere. We were created to “know, love and serve God” and are hard wired to seek Him out in our lives.] It is natural for those who have faith to desire to share it, respectfully and tactfully, with those they meet in the digital forum. Ultimately, however, if our efforts to share the Gospel bring forth good fruit, it is always because of the power of the word of God itself to touch hearts, prior to any of our own efforts. [We must always keep this in mind. I am a vessel of God. It is His work and not mine. Therefore, any fruit that comes from my work is His doing!] Trust in the power of God’s work must always be greater than any confidence we place in human means. In the digital environment, too, where it is easy for heated and divisive voices to be raised and where sensationalism can at times prevail, we are called to attentive discernment. Let us recall in this regard that Elijah recognized the voice of God not in the great and strong wind, not in the earthquake or the fire, but in “a still, small voice” (1 Kg 19:11-12). We need to trust in the fact that the basic human desire to love and to be loved, and to find meaning and truth – a desire which God himself has placed in the heart of every man and woman – keeps our contemporaries ever open to what Blessed Cardinal Newman called the “kindly light” of faith.

Social networks, as well as being a means of evangelization, can also be a factor in human development. As an example, in some geographical and cultural contexts where Christians feel isolated, social networks can reinforce their sense of real unity with the worldwide community of believers. [It is not only about sharing our faith, it is about developing “real” friendships. Caring for one another and supporting one another through prayer, kind words and listening. Being there for one another. We will need this more and more as our culture moves away from God and supports things that are alien to our faith.] The networks facilitate the sharing of spiritual and liturgical resources, helping people to pray with a greater sense of closeness to those who share the same faith. An authentic and interactive engagement with the questions and the doubts of those who are distant from the faith should make us feel the need to nourish, by prayer and reflection, our faith in the presence of God as well as our practical charity: “If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal” (1 Cor 13:1).

In the digital world there are social networks which offer our contemporaries opportunities for prayer, meditation and sharing the word of God. But these networks can also open the door to other dimensions of faith. Many people are actually discovering, precisely thanks to a contact initially made online, the importance of direct encounters, experiences of community and even pilgrimage, [I have many exciting stories of meeting online friends for the first time. These are bonds that we all treasure and should continually nourish.] elements which are always important in the journey of faith. In our effort to make the Gospel present in the digital world, we can invite people to come together for prayer or liturgical celebrations in specific places such as churches and chapels. [Online is good, but we should, and often do have meet-ups for fellowship, prayer and education.] There should be no lack of coherence or unity in the expression of our faith and witness to the Gospel in whatever reality we are called to live, whether physical or digital. When we are present to others, in any way at all, we are called to make known the love of God to the furthest ends of the earth.

I pray that God’s Spirit will accompany you and enlighten you always, and I cordially impart my blessing to all of you, that you may be true heralds and witnesses of the Gospel. “Go into all the world and preach the Gospel to the whole creation” (Mk 16:15).

From the Vatican, 24 January 2013, Feast of Saint Francis de Sales.

BENEDICTUS XVI

How blest are we, that our Holy Father encourages us in on-line communication and takes part in it himself. Follow the Holy Father on Twitter.

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My experience of the altar rail

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 15, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 15, 2013 29

Recently there has been a lot of buzz about returning altar rails in the last few years. One of the latest blog post was by Deacon Greg Kandra over at the Deacon’s Bench. After the Second Vatican Council, altar rails were ripped out without any explanation. It was said that was the command of the Council. However, not only was there no such command, there was not even a mention of the altar rail in Sacrosanctum Concilium.

The purpose of the altar rail was two fold. First, it separated the sanctuary from the body of the church. For Catholics, the sanctuary is our Holy of Holies. This is where the sacrifice of Christ takes place in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and where Christ remains in the tabernacle in His abiding presence in the Most Blessed Sacrament. The second purpose of the altar rail was for the Communion of the faithful.

It was only on June 17, 1977 that the Holy See granted an indult with permission for the faithful to receive Holy Communion in the hand. An indult is a a permission granted by the Holy See, giving an exception from a norm of the Church. That means that the norm for reception of Holy Communion in the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church remains kneeling and on the tongue. So, the indult gives what we could say, a relaxation of the law.

With the indult, the Holy See gave regulations that demanded proper reverence and protection for the Most Blessed Sacrament. At all times, Holy Communion should be protected from profanation by using a Communion paten to catch any fragments that may fall from the Host. The Sacred Host is to be placed in the left hand which is held flat over the right hand, the Host is to be immediately taken with the right hand and placed in the mouth and any particles in the left hand consumed.

Anyone who distributes Holy Communion can relate that since the change, not only is Holy Communion received poorly, but very little respect and reverence is given to Our Lord by many receiving the Most Holy Sacrament.

There are the “body snatchers” who reach out and grab the Sacred Host out of the minister of Communion, there are the “flippers” who take the host in one hand and flip it into the other before receiving. Then there are the “poppers” who take the Host in their hand, do a drop of the hand so the host slides down their fingers and proceed to pop it in their mouth as if it were a piece of candy. There are also “tourists” who walk away with the host, place it in their pocket, in a book and take it home with them for what purpose God only knows.

During Mass at St. John Lateran, on May 22, 2008, Pope Benedict XVI began giving Communion to all who received from him kneeling and on the tongue. His mater of Ceremonies, Monsignor Guido Marini stated that Communion kneeling and on the tongue helps to emphasize “the truth of the Real Presence (of Christ) in the Eucharist, helps the devotion of the faithful, and introduces the sense of mystery more easily.” Since that Mass, the practice has become the norm at all Papal Masses.

People who are exposed to Eucharist Adoration grow in their love, reverence and devotion the the Most Blessed Sacrament. The more we preach about the Real Presence and try to form our people in proper reverence, they also have a desire to receive kneeling and or on the tongue.

Since I learned to celebrate the Roman Rite according to the Extraordinary Form also known as the Tridentine Mass, a parishioner who owned a professional wood working company donated a brand new altar rail. At first I was hesitant in accepting this gift in fear of the response of the people, but finally decided to graciously accept the beautiful gift to the parish.

Since installing the altar rail in 2010, a number of people requested to use if at all of our Masses. We began using the altar rail for daily Mass shortly after it was installed. However, a number of people kept requesting using in for all of our Masses. On February 22, 2012, the First Sunday of  Lent, I announced that we would distribute Holy Communion at the altar rail due to the many requests I have received. I reminded the parish that they had the option to receive standing or kneeling, on the tongue or in the hand. Since that day, a majority of the parish received kneeling and a good number of people now receive on the tongue.

I have received a few complaints and even one family choose to leave the parish. Isn’t it funny that people are tolerant of those who would do something that goes against Liturgical law, but not of those who would rightly request their option to receive by the Church’s long held normative practice of receiving kneeling and on the tongue. However, with time, I have seen more who choose to receive both kneeling and on the tongue.

I would recommend that everyone reads and pass around copies of “Dominus Est! It Is The Lord!” by Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Bishop Schneider gives solid historical background to Communion on the tongue and kneeling.

Here are some pictures of before, building, installation and after the altar rail was installed.

OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA Sanding sections of the altar rail before staining. Sections of the altar rail in the painting room. The beginnings of the altar rail gate. The gilding process is long and laborious. Installation of the altar rail on March 6, 2010 The altar rail installation complete Front view of the sanctuary with the altar rail installed.

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Readers’ Choice Awards

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 15, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 15, 2013 2

This is the third year that the About.com Catholicism GuideSite will be participating in the Readers’ Choice Awards. Last year, the About Catholicism Readers’ Choice Awards received thousands of nominations across ten categories and tens of thousands of votes. 

Starting at 12:00 A.M. EST on January 14, I will be accepting nominations in the following categories:

  • Best Catholic Book of 2012
  • Best Catholic Blog
  • Best Catholic Website
  • Best Catholic Podcast
  • Best Catholic Radio Show
  • Best Catholic Magazine
  • Best Catholic Newspaper
  • Best Catholic iOS App
  • Best Catholic to Follow on Twitter
  • Best Catholic Facebook Page

Nominations will be accepted from 12:00 A.M. EST on January 14, 2013, until 12:00 A.M. EST on February 11, 2013. You are free to nominate your own product or site, as well as to promote the Readers’ Choice Awards to your community. (Sign up for the About.com Catholicism Newsletter to be notified automatically when nominations open.)

Finalists will be announced on February 19, and voting will run from February 19 through March 19. The winners will be announced on March 27. There’s no prize—just the bragging rights that come with getting recognized by the 69 million monthly unique visitors who find About.com their most trusted source on the Internet—though finalists and winners will receive a badge that they can place on their website and use in other promotional material.

 

To learn more about the awards program on the About.com Catholicism GuideSite, visit the About Catholicism Readers’ Choice Awards page. To learn more about the Readers’ Choice Awards in general, visit awards.about.com.

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iPadre #289 – The Sacred Council

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 13, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 13, 2013 3

In today’s episode, I am joined by Fr. Thomas Kocik and we talk about the first document of the Second Vatican Council – Sacrosanctum Concilium, and I answer a few questions about the ordination of bishops.

– “The Fence” by 3 in The Same, courtesy Musicalley.com
– Fr. Kocik’s articles on “New Liturgical Movement” and “Vatican II”
– “The Reform of the Reform?” Fr. Thomas Kocik
– “Loving and Living the Mass” by Fr. Thomas Kocik
– Sacrosanctum Concilium PDF

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Marriage equality – NOT even in outward appearance!

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 9, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 9, 2013 6

The whole “Marriage Equality” issue is before my state’s again. This issue comes up every year. Those who are pushing for a change in the definition of marriage, whittle away a little more each year. The theory is that eventually, those who are agains change will wear down and compromise. The proponents also vilify those who stand for what is right and true. We are called bigots and charged with hating people with same-sex attraction.

Once again, I wrote to my representative and received the following response:

“I am fully supportive of marriage equality.  The Church is entitled to define marriage however it like.  The State is not entitled to, and must not, treat two adults differently than two other adults.  It is an equality issue.  It is a civil rights issue.  It is not a religious issue. Thank you for contacting me on this important topic.”

What saddens me most about this response, is that my representative is a “practicing” Catholic, who graduated from Providence College (run by esteemed Dominicans), and did further studies with the Black Friars (Dominicans) in Oxford.

Either there was something seriously flawed with his education, which I doubt, or he is not a very serious Catholic – one thing for sure, his philosophy is very fallacious.

Let’s take a look at the response I received.

“The Church is entitled to define marriage however it like.”

No! This is wrong. The Church is not entitled to define marriage. Marriage is not something that any of us created or define, it is part of the very fabric of human nature. Marriage is written into natural law. This is the very reason that the Church is so insistent on protecting the institution of marriage. It is not simply the public recognition of a committed relationship between two adults. If that were the cast, there would be no reason to defend marriage. Marriage unites a man and a woman with each other and any children born from their union. Marriage is procreative, it brings life into the world, and sustains and nourishes it.

“The State is not entitled to, and must not, treat two adults differently than two other adults.”

This is completely false. If this were true, then, the state would have to permit a person to marry anyone they so choose. But the state does not give a man the right to marry his grandmother, sister, or mother. The government would not have the right to stop someone from marrying one woman or 100 women. If those who are pushing for equality of marriage for people with same-sex attraction succeed, the next step will be polygamy, because once you destroy the true design for marriage, anything goes.

It is an equality issue.” 

There is no comparison between the union of a man and a woman and the artificial union between two people of the same sex. The first is of the natural order. Even the state cannot bestow marriage where it is not possible. They can pretend that a union exists when one does not. The marital union brings life into the world and if the marriage is not consummated, it can be declared null and void. There is no possibility of two people of the same sex consummating marriage, nor is there any natural way for two people of the same sex to bring life into the world. Without getting descriptive, we can see why two people of the same sex cannot bring life into the world. The problem today is not that natural law is no longer in force, it is the denial of this truth and acceptance of relativism. Even some people who have been schooled in solid philosophical reasoning throw all reasoning aside and follow the emotion of the crowd. The state does not have the power to make all people equal. Men and women are not equal. Women can bear children. No matter what laws are created, or how much men desire to have children, men will never be able to bear children. The issue of “marriage equality” is the same. No matter how hard our representatives try and how many laws they create, same-sex couples will never be married. This is not an equality issue! Insisting on equality where it doesn’t exist will cause destruction of the family and chaos in society. Marriage is and will only be the union between a man and a woman and the children who are born of this union, even if every nation decided to “change” the definition of marriage.

“It is a civil rights issue.”

This is not a civil rights issue. People do not have the right to anything they want in life. There are three rights guaranteed us by the US Constitution. The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The right to life is the only fundamental right and all other rights proceed from it. The right to liberty is freedom from government coercion, but not freedom from the natural law. And finally, the right to pursue individual happiness. This gives one the right to choose what constitutes their personal happiness and individual accomplishments. However, this right must respect the same rights in other people. These rights do no give a person the right to anything they want. All rights must correspond to the natural law. Marriage is the union of a man and a woman and the children who are born of this union.

“It is not a religious issue.”

This point is preposterous. It maintains that people faith do no the right to voice their opinion in society, only people without faith do. People of faith are part this great nation, they pay taxes, they work in the community and contribute to society. Those who claim people who practice religion have no voice in society are bigots of the highest degree and the most intolerant people in society.

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Did you notice?

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 6, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 6, 2013 12

Did you notice how the four new bishop were clothed for their ordination by Pope Benedict XVI on Epiphany? Below is a picture of the Holy Father’s personal secretary, Archbishop Georg Gänswein. First, you see his Episcopal cassock, which is covered with a beautiful lace alb. Also covering the cassock around the neck is the amice. On top of the alb and maybe missed by some is the dalmatic, which is covered by a Roman style chasuble. The dalmatic may be worn by the bishop under his chasuble for solemn Mass. It was part of the required vesture of a bishop from the 13th until the 20th century.

What is most interesting is the use of the dalmatic and the Roman style chasuble. Here is another sign of the Reform of the Reform in progress under our Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI. The Holy Father leads more by example than by command. Here, he is showing the Church how a bishop aught to be clothed for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

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iPadre #288 – The Heroic Life of Elizabeth Leseur

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on January 5, 2013 by Fr. Jay FinelliJanuary 5, 2013 4

In this episode, we talk about a wonderful woman Elizabeth Leseur, and her extraordinary faith. We have another Mary Moment, a short chat with one of the founders of the Walk For Life West Coast, some feedback and finally we announce our winners of The Greatest Miracle DVD.

– “Thank You For Bringing Me Home” by Phil Ayoub, courtesy Musicalley.com
– Prayer to Elizabeth Leseur & Info
– The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur: The Woman Whose Goodness Changed Her Husband from Atheist to Priest

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iPadre #287 – Marriage and Family

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on December 30, 2012 by Fr. Jay FinelliDecember 30, 2012 1

Today is the solemnity of the Holy Family and today, we will talk about marriage and family. I also share a few eMails.

– “Last Train Home” – Starlume – courtesy Musicalley.com
– Recommended book: “Getting the Marriage Conversation Right” by William B. May

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We went to the Lord, and He came to us!

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on December 25, 2012 by Fr. Jay FinelliDecember 25, 2012 2

Since the changes to the Mass, following Vatican II, almost everywhere you go the priest is facing the people. However, in the Roman Missal itself, there are rubrics (the directions) that tell the priest when to face the people. This was a very unfortunate change, that had a profound effect on Catholic worship. For many, it became as Pope Benedict wrote in his book “The Spirit of the Liturgy”, there is a danger that “The turning of the priest toward the people has turned the community into a self-enclosed circle. In its outward form, it no longer opens out on what lies ahead and above, but is locked into itself.” In many places, this has in fact happened. The Mass is more about the music, the priest and the activity of the laity. Father feels that he has to entertain the congregation, or they may not return.

For a number of years, my weekday Masses have been celebrated Ad Orientem, and this year I thought the time was finally ripe for our Christmas Masses to be celebrated facing the Lord also. In my decisions to do this, I talked out loud with a few people. On told me that his experience at one of our weekday Mass was that he felt that he “wasn’t left out”.

I once read another priest’s explanation of Ad Orientem as a priest driving a bus and you wouldn’t want to driver to face you as he’s driving, because we are all going in the same direction. I would like to add to that analogy. In the novus  ordo, the readings are proclaimed facing the people. It is like the bus driver before the journey. Everyone is gathered together and they talk about where they are going, that is the Liturgy of the Word and homily. Once they know where they are going, and get into the bus, the Liturgy of the Eucharist, the priest faces the same direction as the people. We are “going to the Lord, who is coming to us.”

I believe there is nothing like ad oriented. Ad Orientem helps to increase reverence in the Mass and takes the focus off us, so that we can keep the focus where it should be, on Him!

Here are a few pictures of my altar, (clicking will enlarge in a new window).

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iPadre #286 – Christmas Special

The iPadre Catholic Podcast Posted on December 22, 2012 by Fr. Jay FinelliDecember 22, 2012 2

In this episode, we give a Scriptural Christmas reflection and Sarah Reinhard shares another Mary Moment. Download the Scripture Notes here.

– “O Come, O Come, Emmanuel” – Karmyn Tyler – courtesy Musicalley.com
– “Silent Night” – Allison Crowe – courtesy Musicalley.com- Music:
– “Merry Christmas Song” – Vanessa Van Spall – courtesy Musicalley.com
– “The Annunciation” – John Polce
– The Greatest Miracle DVD preview
– Snoring Scholar blog and more by Sarah Reinhard

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